Nobody lights a lamp and sets it under a basket... except the Watchtower Legal Department.
Thanks for letting this light shine Atlantis!
forget the apple pie and just grab this booklet!.
2008 child custody booklet.. .. click the link by that little blue arrow.. .. https://www.sendspace.com/file/xvdh8l.
.. this booklet should be shared with every attorney you can find.
Nobody lights a lamp and sets it under a basket... except the Watchtower Legal Department.
Thanks for letting this light shine Atlantis!
i remember being at the assembly in 1988?
when this was released.
everyone was so excited that we finally had a simple explanation of revelation with pictures.
The first time we studied it, I thought it was interesting. By the last time we studied it, I thought it was foolishness. Either I had to conduct the mess to disinterested dubs or try to read the mess through all the insertions of "new light".
"Revelation--It's Grand Climax at Hand!"
Even the name screams "false prophecy"! Since when does "at Hand" imply 30 years later?
i've tried taking the slow, patient approach with my wife.
i believe i first posted here about 13 months ago about my wife.. we've always had good communication and could talk endlessly about philosophy, neuroscience, sociology and then when i learned the ttatt, i clammed up a bit about spiritual things.
i'd always been fairly liberal, suggesting other alternative ideas, but then i told my wife about the un/ngo scandal (i ran across the guardian story doing a talk as an ms, lol!
Not sure if you've read this thread:
part 1. .
she was suspecting me that i'm no longer interested in the borg, and she was trying to get a confession.
this is how our conversation went out.
Q: "how are you doing spiritually, my brother?"
A: "I'm doing better spiritually than I ever have."
She: XXXX, you know the organization has never claimed to be INSPIRED by God. Only the Bible writers were inspired, or literally, God-breathed. But you can't blind yourself to the fact that this is the only organization that has overwhelming proof of the BACKING of Jehovah's spirit.
Me: Indeed, I've felt a great deal of frustration and sorrow in my life because I listen and believed that when the organization explained that it was irresponsible to marry and have children back in the 1980s, they had been given knowledge directly by God. I don't need you to explain to me in 2014 that they didn't know what they were talking about back in 1989. And I fully understand that if I were to now treat anything the organization says is something that is spoken from God, I would be a fool!
THEN...
And as far as the organization having overwhelming proof of Jehovah's backing, that is the same claim the Pharisees used in Jesus' day. And the nation of Israel throughout the OT had all kinds of proof of Jehovah's backing... but how did that work out with the whole captivity in Babylon, subjugation by Greece, and destruction by Rome work out? Following an organization of men is doomed. Jesus said "follow me".
OR...
Every other member of a religion believes that their organization has overwhelming proof of God's backing. You've heard of the Muslems, right? Why is it that JWs haven't made a dent in the growth and zeal of Islam?
so, i watched this recorded broadcast by one of the bigs,i heard this rediculous but yet humourous statement.
something like ''spritually sluggish is the same as wickedness or evel.
lol, get a load of that lol.
Doesn't turning off a person's brain while sitting and listening to the JW popes = "spiritually sluggish"?
On the hundredth anniversary of "Jesus invisible presence" when the most memorable thing that they could comment on is the tightness of pants, JWs must be both spiritually sluggish and mentally constipated.
this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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Nearly a billion dollars worth of Brooklyn real estate sold, along with hundreds of millions of dollars from the sale of branches all around the world, and now they're pocketing the funds from individual congregations, and they have no time to give an accounting for where all that money has gone?
Over a billion dollars has disappeared in very recent history and they're asking for more money during this "event"? ... And all they have to tell the branch territory is that Jehovah is unhappy because of tight pants? ... And try to "razzle dazzle" the sheeples with the wonderousness of the GB?
this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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No mention of "higher education"?
this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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"And what the heck is it with tight pants and homosexuals!!"
Looking back at Bethel, there were lots of comments that showed how the GB, George Couch, and plenty of others were fascinated with homosexuality. And they seemed to think it was something contageous that new boys could catch by being downwind of Greenwich Village.
this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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"And don't forget the parents whose children left the the organization."
Indeed. Like earlier posts mentioned, looks like it's time for us exJW kids to love-bomb the folks. I'll have to give that some thought...
the big news at the annual corporate meeting was probably the sudden realization that gog of .
magog was some group of nations.
the news was given by geoffrey jackson.
I've finally been away long enough that "Gog of Magog" just sounds like the title of a Dr. Seuss book.